Skip to content
Carmelics
TopicsThinkersChangesContributorsLoading account…

    Carmelics

    A reasoning platform. Break down any belief into clear reasons, explore both sides, and weigh the evidence honestly.

    Navigate

    • Topics
    • Search
    • Recent Changes
    • Contribute
    • How It Works
    • Glossary
    • Thinkers
    • Contributors
    • About
    • Statistics
    • Terms
    • Privacy

    Database

    Statements
    —
    Perspectives
    —
    Topics
    —

    Press ? for keyboard shortcuts

    LoyalLoyalJusticeJustice
    Made withinDC&Austin
    Statements
    321,452
    Perspectives
    108,905
    Topics
    42
    Jonathan Edwards argues that the heinousness of sin scale... — Carmelics
    Home
    HistoryEditSee Inverse

    Part of a larger discussion

    Supports→According to Lex Talionis, such a punishment for this hurt must be infinite

    Jonathan Edwards argues that the heinousness of sin scales with the dignity of the one sinned against, not merely the temporal length of the harmful act.

    ?Rate how convincing each reason is below to see the overall strength.
    1 reason for
    1 reason against

    Reasons For

    1 perspective
    Reason for
    ?
    • 1.A lie told to God involves contempt for infinite perfection, while the same lie to a child harms finite understanding—the offense scales with the dignity of the recipient.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.Moral wrongs are relational: stealing from a beggar and stealing from a king involve identical temporal acts but radically different moral injuries based on what's owed each party.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 3.Our intuitions about insult severity confirm this: insulting a stranger differs morally from insulting one's benefactor, even with identical words, because of the recipient's standing.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Reasons Against

    1 perspective
    Reason against
    ?
    • 1.Harm to the victim's wellbeing is what matters morally, not the perpetrator's subjective valuation of the victim's dignity—a painful injury is equally wrong regardless.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.Grounding sin's severity in the victim's dignity makes morality dependent on hierarchy and status, risking the conclusion that harming the powerless matters less.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 3.Duration and consequences of harm (suffering caused, opportunities lost) are objective measures of wrongness; 'dignity' is metaphysically obscure and varies by theological tradition.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Sign in or register to share your perspective on this statement.

    Next step

    Based on where you are in your exploration

    Strongest counterpoint
    Explore the most compelling reason on the other side.

    Connections

    1 linked claim · 1 topic

    Eternal Conscious Torment1 linked
    According to Lex Talionis, such a punishment for this hurt must be infinite

    Related

    A lie told to God involves contempt for infinite perfection, while the same lie ...According to Lex Talionis, such a punishment for this hurt must be infiniteDuration and consequences of harm (suffering caused, opportunities lost) are obj...Grounding sin's severity in the victim's dignity makes morality dependent on hie...
    +3 moreShow less
    Harm to the victim's wellbeing is what matters morally, not the perpetrator's su...Moral wrongs are relational: stealing from a beggar and stealing from a king inv...Our intuitions about insult severity confirm this: insulting a stranger differs ...

    Details

    Type
    claim
    Perspectives
    2 (1 for, 1 against)
    Edits
    1 edit