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    It is not the case that Lex Talionis supports ECT

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    Reasons For

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    Reason for 1 of 4
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    • 1.Sin robs God's happiness
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    • 2.Such a robbery hurts God infinitely
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    • 3.According to Lex Talionis, such a punishment for this hurt must be infinite
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    Reason for 2 of 4
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    • 1.Sin robs God's honor
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    • 2.Such a robbery hurts God infinitely
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    • 3.According to Lex Talionis, such a punishment for this hurt must be infinite
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    Reason for 3 of 4
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    • It is not that there exists a sin which warrants everlasting torment
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    Reason for 4 of 4
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    • If the above is true, then it is not that Lex Talionis supports ECT
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Anselm's satisfaction theory holds that offenses against an infinite being carry infinite moral weight, regardless of the finite offender's nature.
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    • 2.Lex Talionis demands proportionality to the gravity of the harm inflicted, not merely to the agent's capacity to suffer.
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    • 3.If the moral gravity of sin against an infinite God is genuinely infinite, proportional retribution logically requires infinite duration of punishment.
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    Reason against 2 of 2
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    • 1.Kant's retributivism holds that justice requires punishment strictly proportional to the objective wrong committed, independent of consequentialist considerations.
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    • 2.Thomas Aquinas argues in Summa Contra Gentiles III.144 that eternal punishment is just because mortal sin constitutes an irrevocable turning from an infinite good.
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    • 3.An irrevocable offense against an infinite good fixes the moral debt permanently, making ongoing retributive punishment the only proportional response available.
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