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    Challenges→In the auditory case, the premise that you can hear a sound without an environmental cause present is true, because hearing a sound produced by loudspeakers is not a hallucination.

    Loudspeakers produce numerically distinct sound events from the original source event, so the hearer perceives a different sound, not the original one.

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    • 1.Numerical identity requires spatiotemporal continuity; loudspeaker sound occurs at a different location and time than the original source event.
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    • 2.Sound waves from loudspeakers have different physical properties (frequency response, phase relationships) than the original source's waves.
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    • 3.If two events are numerically distinct, perceiving one cannot be perceiving the other, regardless of causal or qualitative similarity.
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    • 1.Numerical distinctness of physical events doesn't entail distinctness of what is perceived; we perceive the musical work, not sound-waves-in-themselves.
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    • 2.Reproduction systems can preserve the perceptually relevant acoustic properties that constitute hearing 'the same sound' in ordinary meaning.
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    • 3.The claim conflates identity of the sound source with identity of the sound experienced; these are distinct properties with different criteria.
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    Reproduction systems can preserve the perceptually relevant acoustic properties ...Sound waves from loudspeakers have different physical properties (frequency resp...The claim conflates identity of the sound source with identity of the sound expe...

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