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    Supports→Macroscopic repeatability does not establish determinism, because quantum stochasticity is merely washed out at large scales rather than absent.

    Macroscopic repeatability is a bounded, domain-relative phenomenon that cannot license inference to global determinism without committing the fallacy of affirming the consequent.

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    • 1.Determinism at microscopic scales (quantum indeterminacy) is empirically established, yet macroscopic repeatability emerges only in specific domains.
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    • 2.Inferring global determinism from local repeatability commits affirming the consequent: determinism implies repeatability, but repeatability doesn't entail determinism.
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    • 3.Domain-specificity of repeatability (chemistry works, weather doesn't) shows repeatability depends on initial conditions and system properties, not universal laws.
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    • 1.Macroscopic repeatability across multiple independent domains (mechanics, thermodynamics, chemistry) suggests an underlying deterministic principle, not domain-relative accident.
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    • 2.Quantum indeterminacy at microscopic scales does not prevent deterministic behavior emerging macroscopically via averaging and large-number effects (decoherence).
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    • 3.Dismissing determinism as a fallacy ignores that inductive reasoning from consistent patterns is philosophically standard; the critique conflates logical form with epistemic practice.
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