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    Naming is an objective science, not a matter of subjective preference

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    • 1.Things have objective natures independent of how they appear to us
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    • 2.There are objectively determined skills for dealing with things based on their objective natures
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    • 3.Just as the right way to cut something is determined by the thing's objective nature, so too naming is governed by objective natures
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    • 1.Wittgenstein's rule-following considerations show that no fact about an object determines a unique correct application of a name across all cases.
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    • 2.If the analogy to craftsmanship fails because naming lacks any finite set of correctness conditions analogous to a clean cut, the craft model of naming collapses.
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    • 3.Kripke's Wittgenstein establishes that what counts as 'correct' naming is sustained by communal agreement, not by objective natures independent of social practice.
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    • 1.Saussure's structural linguistics demonstrates that the sign-signified relation is arbitrary, grounded in differential contrast within a system rather than natural fit.
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    • 2.If meaning is constituted by relations between signs rather than correspondence to objective natures, there is no pre-linguistic 'nature' for naming to track.
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    That next move starts with Socrates securing Hermogenes’ rejection of out-and-out relativism like that of Protagoras. (See the entry Plato on knowledge in the Theaetetus.) This in turn commits him to the view that things have objective natures independent of how they may appear to us, and that there are objectively determined skills for dealing with them: for example, the right way to cut something is determined, independently of our own subjective preferences, by that thing’s objective natu
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