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    Things have objective natures independent of how they appear to us

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    • 1.Protagorean relativism, which holds that things are as they appear to each individual, is false
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    • 2.The rejection of out-and-out relativism commits one to the view that reality is not determined by individual perception
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    • 1.Kant demonstrates that objects as they appear (phenomena) are structured by mind-imposed categories, not intrinsic natures of things-in-themselves.
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    • 2.If our cognitive apparatus necessarily shapes all possible experience, 'objective nature' is only ever accessible through subjective conditions of knowledge.
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    • 3.Therefore rejecting Protagorean relativism is compatible with denying mind-independent natures, since a shared transcendental structure explains intersubjective agreement.
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    • 1.The argument conflates rejecting individual-relative truth with affirming mind-independent reality, but a third option exists: socially constituted objectivity.
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    • 2.Wittgenstein and Putnam show that 'objective' can mean norm-governed and community-validated without requiring metaphysical independence from all conceptual schemes.
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    • 3.Disproving Protagoras's individual relativism therefore underdetermines whether things possess natures wholly independent of any perspective whatsoever.
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    That next move starts with Socrates securing Hermogenes’ rejection of out-and-out relativism like that of Protagoras. (See the entry Plato on knowledge in the Theaetetus.) This in turn commits him to the view that things have objective natures independent of how they may appear to us, and that there are objectively determined skills for dealing with them: for example, the right way to cut something is determined, independently of our own subjective preferences, by that thing’s objective natu

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    Therefore rejecting Protagorean relativism is compatible with denying mind-indep...
    Wittgenstein and Putnam show that 'objective' can mean norm-governed and communi...