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    Non-determinism is computationally less powerful with respect to space than it appears to be with respect to time

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    • 1.PSPACE equals NPSPACE (non-determinism does not add power for polynomial space)
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    • 2.Whether P equals NP remains an open question (non-determinism may add power for polynomial time)
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    • 1.PSPACE equals NPSPACE, meaning non-determinism yields no additional power for space-bounded computation
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    • 2.Whether P equals NP remains unresolved, leaving open whether non-determinism adds power for time-bounded computation
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    • 1.Savitch's theorem shows NPSPACE ⊆ DSPACE(f(n)²), but this simulation incurs a quadratic blowup, meaning non-determinism retains non-trivial computational significance for space.
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    • 2.The absence of an analogous polynomial-time simulation of non-determinism is an epistemic gap, not evidence that non-determinism is genuinely 'more powerful' for time—both cases reflect our ignorance.
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    • 3.Equating formal containment results with claims about relative 'power' conflates mathematical provability with the underlying computational reality, a category error Hartmanis and Stearns warned against.
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    • 1.The claim presupposes a symmetric baseline for comparing power across resource types, but time and space are incommensurable computational resources without a neutral tertium comparationis.
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    • 2.Immerman and Szelepcsényi independently proved NSPACE(f(n)) = co-NSPACE(f(n)), suggesting non-deterministic space has richer structural closure properties than non-deterministic time, complicating any simple 'less powerful' verdict.
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    2 Complexity classes and the hierarchy theorems Recall that a complexity class is a set of languages all of which can be decided within a given time or space complexity bound \(t(n)\) or \(s(n)\) with respect to a fixed model of computation. g. non-recursive ones) it is standard to restrict attention to complexity classes defined when \(t(n)\) and \(s(n)\) are time or space constructible. e. a string of \(n\) 1s) halts after exactly \(t(n)\) steps. Similarly, \(s(n)\) is said to be space constru
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