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    Nothingness cannot possess any extension. — Carmelics
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    Supports→If God removed all matter within a vessel such that nothing remained, the sides of the vessel would immediately become contiguous.

    Nothingness cannot possess any extension.

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    • 1.All distance is a mode of extension.
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    • 2.A mode of extension cannot exist without an extended substance.
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    • 3.Nothingness is the absence of any extended substance.
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    • 1.Relational space can be defined by the possible distances between bodies without requiring any substance to currently occupy it.
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    • 2.Leibniz's relational account shows spatial extension is a structural feature of possible arrangements, not a property requiring actual substance.
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    • 3.If possible spatial relations are real, nothingness can instantiate extension as a framework of potentiality rather than actuality.
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    • 1.Modern physics treats the quantum vacuum as a genuine physical state possessing geometric and field-theoretic properties despite containing no classical matter.
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    • 2.If extension is properly characterized as a geometric or metric property, it can be grounded in field structure rather than Cartesian corporeal substance.
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    • 3.Descartes' inference from 'no substance' to 'no extension' presupposes his own substance-mode ontology rather than establishing it independently.
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    Descartes’ many hypotheses concerning space and body are best appreciated when viewed as a continuation of a long debate within Medieval/Renaissance philosophy centered upon the Aristotelian dictum that whatever possessed dimensionality was body (see, Grant 1981). While some philosophers, such as Telesio, Campanella, and Bruno, held space to be always filled with matter (i.e., a plenum) yet somehow independent of matter, others, like Patrizi and Gassendi, endorsed a more absolutist notion that a
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    Nothingness is the absence of any extended substance.
    Relational space can be defined by the possible distances between bodies without...
    Space cannot exist separately from body.
    Without matter, there is no extended substance to constitute the space between t...
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