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    It is not the case that One must accept idealism if one accepts Berkeley's re-interpretation of causality as a relation of marks and signs between ideas.

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    • 1.A regularity theory of causation (Hume) can interpret constant conjunctions among ideas without requiring a divine mind to order them.
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    • 2.If causal relations are just observed regularities between ideas, no theological idealist ontology is entailed by accepting the sign-relation account.
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    • 1.Leibniz's pre-established harmony also reinterprets efficient causation as representational correspondence yet grounds this in monadic substances, not Berkeleyan immaterialism.
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    • 2.The sign-relation theory of causality is therefore compatible with non-Berkeleyan ontologies, so accepting it does not uniquely commit one to Berkeley's idealism.
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    • 1.Berkeley re-interprets causality as a purported relation between ideas, not between material things.
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    • 2.On this theory, ideas of objects are signs of God's plan for future possible ideas.
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    • 3.Accepting this theory of causality and signs commits one to a world constituted by ideas and the divine mind that orders them.
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