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    It is not the case that Only mind or spirit satisfies the ontological conditions for genuine substantiality

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    • 1.Aristotelian hylomorphism holds that primary substances are concrete particulars—individual organisms—whose substantiality derives from form-matter composites, not from mentality.
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    • 2.The ontological conditions Berkeley and Leibniz invoke for substantiality (unity, activity, persistence) are satisfied by biological organisms without requiring those organisms to be mental entities.
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    • 3.Therefore, the disjunction in P1—matter or mind—falsely excludes hylomorphic composites as a third candidate that historically predates and independently challenges the idealist framework.
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    • 1.Spinoza's substance monism demonstrates that a single infinite substance with infinite attributes—neither purely mental nor material—satisfies classical criteria for substantiality (self-causation, necessary existence) without privileging mind.
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    • 2.If a substance need only be causa sui and conceivable through itself alone, then the idealist must provide additional criteria excluding neutral or physical monism, which they have not established.
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    • 1.Matter and mind are the only candidates for genuine substantiality of which we know
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    • 2.Matter does not satisfy the ontological conditions for genuine substantiality
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