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    Premise (1) misrepresents God's relation to time and shou... — Carmelics
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    Premise (1) misrepresents God's relation to time and should be rejected.

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    • 1.God is not in time and has no temporal properties.
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    • 2.If God is not in time, then God does not have beliefs at a time—God did not believe T yesterday, does not believe T today, and will not believe T tomorrow.
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    • 3.Rather, all temporal events are before the mind of God in an atemporal present, in which God has a single complete grasp of all events in the entire span of time.
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    A third challenge to premise (1), independent of the first two, is that it misrepresents God’s relation to time. What is denied according to this solution is not that God believes infallibly, and not that God believes the content of proposition T, but that God believed T yesterday. This solution probably originated with the 6th century philosopher Boethius, who maintained that God is not in time and has no temporal properties, so God does not have beliefs at a time. It is therefore a mistake to say God had beliefs yesterday, or has beliefs today, or will have beliefs tomorrow. It is also a mis...

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