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    Present truths about future events are made true by futur... — Carmelics
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    Present truths about future events are made true by future decisions, not the reverse.

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    • 1.If the agent decides tomorrow to visit her parents, it is true today that she will visit them.
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    • 2.If the agent decides tomorrow not to visit her parents, it is true today that she will not visit them.
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    • 3.Whatever the agent chooses, it is her decision that makes the present truth value determinate.
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    • 1.Truth is atemporal: propositions do not acquire truth values over time but are timelessly true or false (Frege, Russell).
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    • 2.If 'she will visit' is timelessly true, no future decision can 'make' it true—it already has its truth value independently of any cause.
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    • 3.A future decision cannot be the truthmaker of a proposition whose truth value is fixed prior to that decision's occurrence.
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    • 1.Aristotle's sea-battle argument (De Interpretatione 9) establishes that bivalence for future contingents entails fatalism, not agent-grounded truth.
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    • 2.If the agent's decision genuinely determines present truth, then prior to the decision the proposition has no determinate truth value, violating classical bivalence.
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    • 3.Accepting that future decisions ground present truths commits one either to fatalism or to a non-classical logic of future contingents, neither of which supports libertarian free will.
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    In contrast, the eternalist could argue that the reason why it is true today that an agent will visit her parents tomorrow is because the agent makes a decision that causally determines her visit before she goes to see them. If the agent makes the opposite decision tomorrow, it will be true today that she will not visit her parents. Whatever she chooses tomorrow, it will be her decision which makes it true today that she is going to see her parents. The outcome of her decision tomorrow is determ
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