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    Relational equality and luck egalitarianism need not be o... — Carmelics
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    Relational equality and luck egalitarianism need not be opposed and can both be affirmed simultaneously.

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    • 1.One can affirm relational equality — that in a just society people should relate as free and equal.
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    • 2.One can affirm luck egalitarianism — that people should be equal in their condition except when being worse off results from reasonable voluntary choice.
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    • 3.One can uphold both ideals even if they sometimes conflict.
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    • 1.Luck egalitarianism's harsh treatment of 'undeserving' victims of bad choices structurally undermines the standing equality relational egalitarians require.
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    • 2.Elizabeth Anderson argues that luck egalitarianism expresses contempt toward victims of self-caused misfortune, which itself constitutes a relational inequality.
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    • 3.A theory that institutionalizes judgments of desert-worthiness cannot simultaneously sustain relations of equal standing among citizens.
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    • 1.Samuel Scheffler's work shows that relational equality is grounded in social practices of mutual recognition, not distributive metrics.
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    • 2.Luck egalitarianism's foundational premise—that unequal outcomes require justification by choice—presupposes an individualist metaphysics incompatible with relational equality's social ontology.
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    • 3.Affirming both simultaneously forces an incoherent hybrid whose conflict-resolution mechanism must privilege one framework, collapsing the claimed compatibility.
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    Relational equality advocates usually advance their equality ideal as a rival to other understandings of equality including luck egalitarianism. But these disparate equality ideals need not be opposed. For example, one could (1) affirm relational equality and hold that in a just society people should relate as free and equal and also (2) affirm luck egalitarianism and hold that people should be equal in their condition (according to their holdings and attainments of resources, capabilities, or w
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    One can uphold both ideals even if they sometimes conflict.
    Samuel Scheffler's work shows that relational equality is grounded in social pra...
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