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    LoyalLoyalJusticeJustice
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    It is not the case that Retributive justice is not to be identified with vengeance or revenge.

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    • 1.Retributivism and revenge share the same foundational logic: the wrongdoer deserves to suffer in proportion to the harm inflicted.
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    • 2.A distinction grounded solely in who administers punishment (state vs. victim) is procedural, not moral, and cannot constitute a principled conceptual difference.
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    • 3.If the structural logic is identical, Fletcher's analogy to love and lust fails, since lust and love differ in kind, not merely in institutional authorization.
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    • 1.Nietzsche's genealogical analysis in 'On the Genealogy of Morality' demonstrates that retributive justice historically emerged from and perpetuates creditor-debtor revenge dynamics.
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    • 2.If retributivism is genetically inseparable from revenge and reproduces its core affective and normative structure, the claim of conceptual distinctness requires more than sublimation to be philosophically defensible.
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    • 1.The desire for revenge may play a motivational role leading people to value retributive justice.
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    • 2.Retributive justice may be the sublimated, generalized version of the thirst for revenge, but the two are nonetheless different.
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    • 3.Retributivism is not to be identified with vengeance or revenge, any more than love is to be identified with lust.
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