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    Scripture says that the wicked must be cognizant of their... — Carmelics
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    Scripture says that the wicked must be cognizant of their punishment

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    • 1.Divine justice requires moral agents understand consequences of their actions for accountability to be meaningful.
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    • 2.Multiple scriptures explicitly describe the wicked experiencing awareness of punishment (Luke 16:23-28, Revelation 14:10).
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    • 3.Unconscious punishment would be indistinguishable from non-existence, undermining retributive justice theology.
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    • 1.Scripture contains contradictory passages; some suggest unconsciousness in death (Ecclesiastes 9:5, Psalm 6:5) or annihilation.
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    • 2.The claim assumes 'Scripture' speaks univocally on this topic, but different traditions interpret afterlife passages differently.
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    • 3.Consciousness of punishment may reflect ancient Near Eastern literary conventions rather than literal theological doctrine.
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