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    Socrates was capable of understanding the voice of his da... — Carmelics
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    Socrates was capable of understanding the voice of his daimôn

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    • 1.Understanding one's daimôn requires a soul purified from passions
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    • 2.Socrates had purified his soul from passions
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    • 1.Plato's Apology presents Socrates as uncertain whether his daimôn represents divine wisdom or merely his own rational conscience.
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    • 2.If the daimôn is reducible to Socrates' own rational faculty, 'understanding' it requires no special soul-purification beyond ordinary philosophical reflection.
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    • 3.Plutarch's neo-Platonic framework of purification was a later interpretive imposition onto Socratic practice, not a condition Socrates himself endorsed.
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    • 1.The Stoic tradition, particularly Epictetus, held that daimonic guidance is universally accessible through reason, not restricted to souls purified by esoteric means.
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    • 2.If daimonic understanding tracks rational self-governance rather than mystical purity, Socrates' access to his daimôn would be explicable without the purification premise.
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    • 3.The supporting argument thus commits a non sequitur: soul-purification may accompany but need not be the necessary condition for daimonic comprehension.
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    According to Plutarch, knowledge of intelligibles through anamnêsis is not in tension with the Academic prescription for suspension of judgment; rather, knowledge can be advanced by suspension of judgment, since the latter puts aside opinion (doxa) as well as egoism (philautia), both of which prevent us from finding the truth (Plat. Quest. 1000C). To be in a position to carry out this search for truth, however, one must search oneself and purify one's soul, Plutarch argues (Adv. Col. 1118C-E).
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