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    Some will not sin forever — Carmelics
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    Challenges→The damned will sin continually

    Some will not sin forever

    Eternal Conscious Torment
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    • 1.Hell, as conceived by Aquinas and Dante, involves a fixed disposition of will: the damned retain the character they died with, not a blank slate.
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    • 2.A fixed disposition of will toward sin does not require external opportunities—internal acts of hatred, pride, and rejection of God constitute ongoing sin.
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    • 3.Augustine argues in City of God that the will itself can sin through its orientation, independent of overt action or contextual opportunity.
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    • 1.C.S. Lewis in The Great Divorce argues that hell is not punishment imposed from outside but the self-chosen continuation of sinful self-enclosure.
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    • 2.If sinful self-enclosure is itself a perpetual act of the will, then even those damned for 'trivial' sins sustain sin through ongoing refusal of God.
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    • 3.Jonathan Kvanvig's work on hell confirms that the damned's settled character entails continuous culpable rejection, not merely past discrete acts.
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    • 1.There's not enough opportunities to sin in Hell continually
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    • 2.If there are not enough opporitniites to sin in Hell continually, then it is not that some will sin forever
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    • 1.Some, paying for trivial sins, will not have the inclination to sin continually
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    • 2.If the above is true, then it is not that some will sin forever
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