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    The damned will sin continually — Carmelics
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    The damned will sin continually

    Against an aspect of GodEternal Conscious Torment
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    • 1.Aquinas holds that the damned retain their disordered will, permanently oriented away from God as their final end.
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    • 2.A will permanently oriented away from God necessarily persists in acts contrary to divine law, constituting continual sin.
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    • 3.The objection's premise that 'some will not sin forever' assumes libertarian freedom incompatible with the fixed post-mortem will.
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    • 1.Jonathan Edwards argues that hell's inhabitants, lacking sanctifying grace, have no capacity to cease their rebellion against infinite holiness.
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    • 2.Without grace as the causal power enabling moral reform, the structural conditions for continual sinning remain permanently in place.
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    • 1.Some will not sin forever
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    • 2.If it is not that some will sin forever, it is not that the damned will sin continually
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