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    The basis for the arising of cognitive awareness is inter... — Carmelics
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    The basis for the arising of cognitive awareness is internal to the mental stream, not external physical objects

    Consciousness & MindPerception
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    • 1.What appears to be a physical object and cognitive faculty providing the basis for cognitive awareness is in fact an object-oriented cognitive aspect and its internal representation
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    • 2.The residual traces (transforming seeds) in the mental stream take the form of tangible object and tactile sense
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    • 3.It only appears that external physical objects and sensory faculties ground perceptual experience
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    • 1.Disjunctivist accounts (McDowell, Hinton) demonstrate that veridical perception and hallucination are fundamentally different states, not unified by a common internal factor.
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    • 2.If perceptual success is constitutively dependent on actual external objects, then the mental stream alone cannot provide sufficient conditions for genuine cognitive awareness.
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    • 3.Yogācāra's appeal to 'object-oriented aspects' presupposes the very representational structure it claims to explain, rendering the internalist account circular.
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    • 1.Vasubandhu's own Twenty Verses concedes that the causal regularity and intersubjective agreement of experience require principled explanation beyond individual mental streams.
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    • 2.Nyāya realists (Uddyotakara, Jayanta Bhaṭṭa) argued that positing seeds mimicking external objects multiplies explanatory entities beyond necessity, violating parsimony.
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    • 3.Direct realism about perception, defended within both Sautrāntika and contemporary philosophy, holds that causal contact with mind-independent objects is not eliminable in favor of internal surrogates without loss of explanatory adequacy.
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    In the Twenty Verses, Vasubandhu offers an elaborate defense of idealism. His arguments may be summarized as follows: Because non-existing entities can be consciously apprehended, consciousness must have ontological priority (VVS I, 1). The typical realist objection to an assertion of this sort concerns the causal function of perception: indeed, if mental content can be said to consciously arise without any reference to external objects, then why does it arise at a specific time and place and no
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