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    It is not the case that The fact that the alternative to remaining in a state would be terrible is not a sufficient reason to think that those who choose to remain in a state are not thereby bound by political obligation.

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    • 1.People consent to pay insurance premiums in order to avoid lacking health care, yet such consent is considered valid and binding.
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    • 2.Promises made on the battlefield under severe duress to lay down arms are considered valid and binding.
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    • 3.Consenting to something in order to avoid terrible costs does not invalidate the consent or remove the obligation it creates.
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    • 1.Genuine consent requires that the consenting party could reasonably have chosen otherwise without facing catastrophic harm, following Kant's distinction between coercion and free rational agency.
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    • 2.Emigration from one's native state is not a genuinely available alternative for most people, given linguistic, familial, economic, and legal barriers that make exit practically impossible.
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    • 3.When 'consent' is given under conditions where the only alternative is severe deprivation, the act tracks self-preservation rather than autonomous endorsement of the authority's legitimacy.
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    • 1.Hume's own insurance and battlefield analogies involve discrete, negotiated transactions between parties with roughly comparable power, unlike the structural asymmetry between citizen and state.
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    • 2.Political obligation, unlike contractual obligation, is claimed universally over all persons born within a territory regardless of their individual acts of agreement or negotiation.
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    • 3.A consent-based obligation that applies automatically to all persons in a jurisdiction by virtue of non-exit cannot be grounded in the same voluntarist logic that validates paradigm cases of private contract.
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