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    It is not the case that The Father and the Son are numerically distinct (non-identical).

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    • 1.Numerical identity admits of degrees or is relative to sortal kinds, so 'numerically distinct' is not an absolute binary relation.
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    • 2.The Father and Son share a single divine substance (homoousios), which on relative identity accounts makes them the same God while distinct persons.
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    • 3.If numerical identity is sortal-relative, the Father and Son can be the same God yet distinct persons without contradiction, undermining the premise that they are simply 'non-identical'.
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    • 1.Augustine's psychological analogy models the Trinity on a single mind whose memory, understanding, and will are genuinely distinct yet constitute one numerically identical subject.
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    • 2.If intra-mental faculties of one mind can instantiate the lover-beloved relation (as in the mind loving its own understanding), numerical identity of lover and beloved is not strictly impossible.
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    • 3.Therefore, the inference from divine friendship-love to numerical distinctness of Father and Son does not follow, since reflexive love within a single numerically identical being is conceivable.
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    • 1.Divine love is a kind of charity of friendship.
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    • 2.In a charity of friendship, lover and beloved cannot be numerically identical.
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    • 3.The Father loves the Son.
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