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    It is not the case that The grace God confers upon a limited elect is utterly gratuitous and supererogatory.

    ?Set your confidence on the premises below to see your aggregate.

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    Reason for 1 of 2
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    • 1.If God freely creates rational beings capable of fellowship with God, God thereby incurs obligations toward those creatures' flourishing.
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    • 2.A creator who imposes existence on beings with certain needs cannot coherently claim those needs generate no duties whatsoever.
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    • 3.Therefore, grace that fulfills divinely-imposed creaturely needs is not purely supererogatory but partly responsive to self-generated obligations.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Pelagius and later Arminius argued that God's universal salvific will (1 Tim 2:4) entails a duty of sufficient grace to all, not a select few.
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    • 2.If God antecedently wills all persons to be saved, then restricting saving grace to an elect contradicts God's own stated normative commitments.
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    • 3.Grace distributed in direct contradiction to God's universal will cannot be characterized as purely gratuitous—it is instead arbitrary and inconsistent.
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    Reasons Against

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    • In our present condition, God owes us nothing.
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