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    The grace God confers upon a limited elect is utterly gra... — Carmelics
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    The grace God confers upon a limited elect is utterly gratuitous and supererogatory.

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    • In our present condition, God owes us nothing.
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    • 1.If God freely creates rational beings capable of fellowship with God, God thereby incurs obligations toward those creatures' flourishing.
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    • 2.A creator who imposes existence on beings with certain needs cannot coherently claim those needs generate no duties whatsoever.
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    • 3.Therefore, grace that fulfills divinely-imposed creaturely needs is not purely supererogatory but partly responsive to self-generated obligations.
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    • 1.Pelagius and later Arminius argued that God's universal salvific will (1 Tim 2:4) entails a duty of sufficient grace to all, not a select few.
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    • 2.If God antecedently wills all persons to be saved, then restricting saving grace to an elect contradicts God's own stated normative commitments.
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    • 3.Grace distributed in direct contradiction to God's universal will cannot be characterized as purely gratuitous—it is instead arbitrary and inconsistent.
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    These two very different explanations for a final and irrevocable division within the human race, where some end up in heaven and others in hell, also reflect profound disagreements over the nature of divine grace. Because the Augustinians hold that, in our present condition at least, God owes us nothing, they also believe that the grace God confers upon a limited elect is utterly gratuitous and supererogatory. As John Calvin put it, “For as Jacob, deserving nothing by good works, is taken into grace, Esau, as yet undefiled by any crime, is hated” (Calvin 1960, Bk. III, Ch. XXIII, sec. 12). Bu...

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