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    In our present condition, God owes us nothing. — Carmelics
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    Supports→The grace God confers upon a limited elect is utterly gratuitous and supererogatory.

    In our present condition, God owes us nothing.

    Afterlife & DeathEternal Conscious Torment
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    Still, all of that having been said, Williams’s view concerning the inevitably tedious nature of an unending life is not that far removed from the religious view that in our present unperfected condition we are not yet fit for eternity and not yet capable of experiencing the most worthwhile forms of happiness; indeed, given our present condition, some would claim, we might even turn heaven itself into a hellish experience. And if that be true, then the task of rendering someone fit for eternal joy may be far more complicated, even for an omnipotent being, than one might have imagined. As many ...

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