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    It is not the case that The mind has no more than causal ontological dependence on the body (not logical or analytic dependence).

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    • 1.Kripke's a posteriori necessity shows that identity statements like 'pain = C-fiber firing' are necessarily true if true at all.
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    • 2.If mind-brain identity holds necessarily rather than contingently, the mind's dependence on the body is stronger than mere causal dependence.
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    • 3.The conceivability of disembodied minds may reflect epistemic gaps rather than genuine metaphysical possibility, undermining the conceivability argument's force.
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    • 1.Grounding relations, as developed by Fine and Schaffer, constitute a form of non-causal, non-analytic ontological dependence distinct from logical entailment.
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    • 2.If phenomenal properties are grounded in physical properties, the mind depends on the body via a necessary metaphysical relation that exceeds mere causal dependence without requiring analytic reduction.
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    • 1.The conceivability argument creates a prima facie case against stronger forms of mind-body dependence.
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    • 2.If one rejects analytical (behaviourist or functionalist) accounts of mental predicates, then any necessary dependence of mind on body does not follow the model that applies in other scientific cases.
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