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    The objection that the communal life will not make these ... — Carmelics
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    The objection that the communal life will not make these citizens happy can be set aside.

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    • 1.The political order is designed to make the entire city happy, not any particular group.
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    The need for a professionally trained army leads to the discussion of education and moral psychology, because the preservation of internal peace and external security presupposes the combination of two different character-traits among the ‘guardians’ (‘the philosophical watchdogs’, 375d–376c): friendliness towards their fellow-citizens and fierceness towards their enemies. The injunctions concerning their appropriate education are very detailed, because it must combine the right kind of ‘muses’
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