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    Thrasymachus

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    Thrasymachus of Chalcedon was a 5th-century BCE Greek sophist and rhetorician best known from Plato's Republic, where he argues that justice is merely the advantage of the stronger party—a position that frames morality as a mask for power. Beyond his role as Socrates' adversary in the Republic, he was a significant theorist of rhetoric whose innovations in prose rhythm and emotional appeal influenced Greek oratory.

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    Argued that 'justice is the advantage of the stronger,' a foundational text in political realism and moral skepticism

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    Pioneered techniques in Greek rhetorical prose, particularly periodic sentence structure and emotional appeal

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    Challenged Socratic and conventional Greek moral assumptions about the intrinsic value of justice

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    Influenced later Cynics, Epicureans, and modern realist political philosophy through his skepticism about conventional morality

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    The objection that the communal life will not make these citizens happy can be set aside.

    Democracy & Governance

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    The objection that the communal life will not make these citizens happy can be set aside.

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    Any theory that explains 'good' as an optative in unasserted contexts would render obviously valid arguments invalid by treating them as equivocal

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