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    It is not the case that The state or sovereign is necessary to ensure that individuals live harmoniously and assist one another.

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    • 1.Humans possess natural sociability and moral sentiments that generate cooperative norms prior to and independent of sovereign enforcement.
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    • 2.Historical and anthropological evidence shows stateless societies sustaining reciprocal obligation and conflict resolution without centralized coercion.
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    • 3.If harmony can arise through evolved social norms and mutual aid, the sovereign is contingent rather than necessary for human cooperation.
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    • 1.The sovereign, composed of passion-driven individuals, is subject to the same irrational self-interest Spinoza attributes to citizens in the state of nature.
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    • 2.An institution whose agents share the very defect it is designed to remedy cannot reliably serve as the external corrective that makes harmony possible.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Human beings do not generally live under the guidance of reason.
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    • 2.When not guided by reason, individuals pursue self-interest without restraint.
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    • 3.Protection from unrestrained self-interest cannot be secured by reason alone but requires the threat of force.
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