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    The state or sovereign is necessary to ensure that indivi... — Carmelics
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    The state or sovereign is necessary to ensure that individuals live harmoniously and assist one another.

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    • 1.Human beings do not generally live under the guidance of reason.
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    • 2.When not guided by reason, individuals pursue self-interest without restraint.
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    • 3.Protection from unrestrained self-interest cannot be secured by reason alone but requires the threat of force.
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    • 1.Humans possess natural sociability and moral sentiments that generate cooperative norms prior to and independent of sovereign enforcement.
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    • 2.Historical and anthropological evidence shows stateless societies sustaining reciprocal obligation and conflict resolution without centralized coercion.
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    • 3.If harmony can arise through evolved social norms and mutual aid, the sovereign is contingent rather than necessary for human cooperation.
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    • 1.The sovereign, composed of passion-driven individuals, is subject to the same irrational self-interest Spinoza attributes to citizens in the state of nature.
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    • 2.An institution whose agents share the very defect it is designed to remedy cannot reliably serve as the external corrective that makes harmony possible.
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    There are a number of social and political ramifications that follow from Spinoza’s ethical doctrines of human action and well-being. Because disagreement and discord between human beings is always the result of our different and changeable passions, “free” individuals—who all share the same nature and act on the same principles—will naturally and effortlessly form a harmonious society. “Insofar as men are torn by affects that are passions, they can be contrary to one another …[But] insofar as m
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    Protection from unrestrained self-interest cannot be secured by reason alone but...
    The sovereign, composed of passion-driven individuals, is subject to the same ir...
    When not guided by reason, individuals pursue self-interest without restraint.
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