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    The term "everlasting destruction," as used in the NT, su... — Carmelics
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    Supports→Scripture argues that the punishment of the wicked lasts forever
    Supports→The NT langauge requires us to conclude that God will make the wicked immortal so they can be tortured forever

    The term "everlasting destruction," as used in the NT, supports the claim that the punishment of the wicked lasts forever

    All sources support itEternal Conscious TormentProof of definition segments
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    • 1.In 2 Thessalonians 1:9, 'olethros aionios' is syntactically parallel to 'aionios' constructions denoting duration, not merely permanent result.
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    • 2.Greek grammarians like A.T. Robertson and Daniel Wallace distinguish between telic and durative uses of 'aionios,' and the 1:9 context favors durative reading.
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    • 3.The phrase 'away from the presence of the Lord' implies ongoing relational exclusion, presupposing a conscious subject enduring that exclusion perpetually.
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    • 1.Philo and Josephus use 'aionios' to denote qualitative endlessness tied to the divine nature, establishing a first-century Jewish semantic range supporting eternal duration.
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    • 2.If 'everlasting destruction' meant only irreversible annihilation, the modifier 'everlasting' would be semantically redundant, since all death is irreversible without resurrection.
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    • The term "everlasting destruction" only means that the the destroyed will never come back to life
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    • If the above is true, then it is not the case that the term "everlasting destruction" as used in the NT supports eternal punishment
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    • The term "everlasting destruction" only means that the the destroyed will never come back to life
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    • If the above is true, then it is not the case that the term "everlasting destruction" as used in the NT supports eternal punishment
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    Scripture argues that the punishment of the wicked lasts forever

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