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    It is not the case that There is a necessarily existent, necessarily omnipotent, necessarily omniscient, and necessarily perfectly good being (namely, God).

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    • 1.Modal properties like 'necessary existence' cannot be coherently predicated of individuals without first establishing that individual's existence in the actual world.
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    • 2.The God-property framework assumes its conclusion by treating necessary existence as a legitimate starting property rather than a derived one, rendering the argument circular.
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    • 3.Kant's insight holds: existence is not a predicate that adds to a concept, so 'necessary existence' as a God-property smuggles existential force into what should be a purely conceptual analysis.
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    • 1.If necessary omnipotence and necessary perfect goodness are both God-properties, they must be compossible in all possible worlds, but the problem of evil gives strong reason to doubt this compossibility.
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    • 2.A being that is necessarily perfectly good would be necessarily constrained from permitting gratuitous suffering, yet a necessarily omnipotent being faces no such constraints, generating a modal contradiction within the God-property set itself.
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    • 1.A God-property is a property that is possessed by God in all and only those worlds in which God exists.
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    • 2.Any property entailed by a collection of God-properties is itself a God-property.
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    • 3.The God-properties include necessary existence, necessary omnipotence, necessary omniscience, and necessary perfect goodness.
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