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    It is not the case that There is no change with respect to God.

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    • 1.Process theology (Whitehead, Hartshorne) holds that God's consequent nature is genuinely affected by contingent worldly events.
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    • 2.Supervenience of change on motion is a classical mechanics assumption incompatible with field-theoretic or relational accounts of physical change.
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    • 3.If divine responsiveness to prayer or creation involves real relations, God acquires new relational properties, which constitutes change.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.God's knowledge of tensed facts (e.g., 'it is now Tuesday') must update as time passes, constituting genuine change.
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    • 2.If God knows all truths and tensed propositions change truth-value, God's knowledge-states cannot remain static.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Nothing ever moves with respect to God.
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    • 2.All change supervenes on motion, e.g., change in color supervenes on motion in microparticles.
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