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    It is not the case that Time is unreal (does not exist).

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    • 1.The existence of closed timelike curves in some solutions to Einstein's Field Equations does not entail that time is absent; it entails that time has unusual topology.
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    • 2.Gödel himself, who discovered rotating universe solutions with CTCs, concluded not that time is unreal but that objective lapse of time is physically relative, a weaker claim.
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    • 3.Inferring that time is unreal in the actual world from exotic features of non-actual spacetime models commits a modal fallacy: possibility of timeless worlds does not establish actuality of timelessness.
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    • 1.McTaggart's B-series, which orders events by permanent earlier-than/later-than relations, constitutes a coherent and empirically adequate conception of time without requiring passage.
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    • 2.If time exists as a B-series dimension—as defended by Russell, Mellor, and Price—then P4's conditional 'if time does not pass, it does not exist' is simply false.
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    • 3.The conflation of 'time passes' with 'time exists' begs the question against the well-established tenseless theory of time dominant in analytic philosophy of physics.
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    • 1.There exist solutions to Einstein's Field Equations that permit the existence of closed timelike curves.
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    • 2.Spacetimes with closed timelike curves do not contain a temporal dimension, because time only exists if there is genuine passage of time, and there cannot be genuine passage of time in such worlds.
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    • 3.If time does not pass in those possible worlds, this suggests that time does not pass in the actual world either.
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