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    We humans are justified in interfering with the freedom o... — Carmelics
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    We humans are justified in interfering with the freedom of others under two conditions: preventing irreparable harm to another person, and preventing irreparable harm to oneself.

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    • 1.A loving father may report his own son to the police in an effort to prevent the son from committing murder, illustrating justified interference to prevent irreparable harm to another.
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    • 2.A loving father may physically overpower his daughter in an effort to prevent her from committing suicide, illustrating justified interference to prevent irreparable harm to oneself.
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    • 1.Mill's harm principle holds that self-regarding actions affecting only oneself fall outside legitimate coercive interference, even to prevent self-harm.
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    • 2.Suicide, when chosen by a competent adult, is paradigmatically self-regarding, making paternalistic physical intervention a violation of autonomy rather than an expression of it.
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    • 3.A principle permitting interference to prevent irreparable self-harm collapses the self/other distinction that liberal political philosophy depends upon to limit state and interpersonal coercion.
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    • 1.Kant's Formula of Humanity forbids treating persons merely as means, and forcible interference substitutes one agent's judgment for another's rational self-governance.
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    • 2.Irreparability alone cannot justify interference, since death and many irreversible choices are the result of fully autonomous rational deliberation that deserves respect precisely because it is final.
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    Consider now the two conditions under which we humans typically feel justified in interfering with the freedom of others (see Talbott 1990a, 38). We feel justified, on the one hand, in preventing one person from doing irreparable harm—or more accurately, harm that no human being can repair—to another; a loving father may thus report his own son to the police in an effort to prevent the son from committing murder. We also feel justified, on the other hand, in preventing our loved ones from doing irreparable harm to themselves; a loving father may thus physically overpower his daughter in an eff...

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