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    What humans ultimately seek is pleasure or delectation, b... — Carmelics
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    What humans ultimately seek is pleasure or delectation, both in this life and in the life to come.

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    • 1.Virtue is not sought for its own sake because it requires enduring harsh and bitter afflictions.
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    • 2.No one naturally and voluntarily seeks virtue as an end in itself.
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    • 3.The true goal toward which virtuous behavior leads is pleasure or delectation.
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    • 1.Kant argues that actions motivated by inclination or pleasure have no genuine moral worth; only duty-based action carries categorical moral value.
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    • 2.If pleasure were the ultimate end of all human seeking, moral obligation would collapse into prudential self-interest, eliminating the distinction between virtue and self-love.
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    • 3.Valla's reduction of virtue to instrumental pleasure commits a genetic fallacy: the painful origin of virtuous habit does not determine the intrinsic nature of its end.
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    • 1.Aristotle distinguishes eudaimonia from hedone, arguing that the highest human end is activity in accordance with the excellences of reason, not mere subjective pleasure.
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    • 2.The Stoic tradition, from Epictetus to Marcus Aurelius, holds that virtue is the only genuine good and that external pleasures are 'indifferents' incapable of constituting ultimate ends.
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    • 3.Since both Aristotelian and Stoic frameworks are internally coherent and historically robust, the claim that pleasure is the universal ultimate end is not a necessary conclusion from human psychology.
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    Valla’s reductive strategy has a clear aim: to equate this essential virtue of action, fortitude, with the biblical concept of love and charity. This step requires some hermeneutic manipulation, but the Stoic overtones of Cicero’s account in De officiis have prepared the way for it—ironically, perhaps, in view of Valla’s professed hostility towards Stoicism—since enduring hardship with Stoic patience is easily linked to the Pauline message that we become strong by being tested (II Cor. 12:10, qu
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