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    Challenges→A person who continues to sin forever would never achieve a state of full clarity.

    A being can possess full epistemic clarity about its situation while still freely choosing evil, as Lucifer is traditionally conceived to have done.

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    • 1.Knowledge of consequences doesn't eliminate agency; humans often knowingly choose harmful acts despite understanding them fully.
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    • 2.Perfect clarity about one's situation is compatible with rebellious will; understanding why authority is right doesn't compel obedience.
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    • 3.If God's nature is necessarily good, a free creature with full knowledge could still rationally prefer autonomy over divine submission.
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    • 1.Complete epistemic clarity about infinite suffering consequences plus perfect rationality seems psychologically incompatible with choosing that evil.
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    • 2.If a being fully understands God's goodness and its own ultimate dependence on God, the psychological motivation to rebel appears incoherent.
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