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    Alcmaeon likely assigned continual motion but not self-motion to the soul

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    • 1.Aristotle does not assign self-motion to Alcmaeon
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    • 2.The doxographical report in Aetius is a paraphrase of Aristotle with self-motion added
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    • 3.Self-motion attested for Plato and Xenocrates was projected back onto Pythagoras and Thales, who likely did not hold that view
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    • 1.Aetius preserves independent doxographical traditions not solely derived from Aristotle, as Mansfeld and Runia's Aëtiana demonstrates.
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    • 2.If Aetius draws on pre-Aristotelian sources, his attribution of self-motion to Alcmaeon cannot be dismissed as mere Aristotelian paraphrase.
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    • 1.Alcmaeon's analogy between soul and heavenly bodies—which he explicitly calls self-moving—suggests self-motion is intrinsic to his cosmological framework.
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    • 2.An analogy functions philosophically by asserting shared properties, so denying self-motion to the soul undermines the explanatory force Alcmaeon intended.
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    Alcmaeon developed the first argument for the immortality of the soul, but the testimonia concerning it differ slightly from one another, and it appears to have been taken over and developed by Plato, so that it is very hard to determine exactly how to reconstruct Alcmaeon’s own argument. Barnes (1982, 116–120) and Hankinson (1998, 30–3) provide the most insightful analysis. Alcmaeon appears to have started from the assumption that the soul is always in motion. At one extreme we might suppose th
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