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    An individual member of the biotic community ought to be ... — Carmelics
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    An individual member of the biotic community ought to be sacrificed when doing so is necessary to protect the holistic good of the biotic community

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    • 1.The biotic community per se is the sole locus of intrinsic value
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    • 2.Individual members have only instrumental value dependent on their contribution to the community
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    • 3.Preserving the holistic good of the biotic community is the supreme deontological principle
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    • 1.Individual organisms possess intrinsic value independently of their membership in or contribution to any collective entity (Taylor 1986, Regan 1983).
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    • 2.A moral framework that treats individuals as purely instrumental to collective ends is structurally indistinguishable from the logic that justifies totalitarian sacrifice of persons for the state.
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    • 3.The parallel between holistic environmental ethics and fascism, identified by Regan as 'environmental fascism,' is not merely rhetorical but reveals a genuine logical entailment requiring rebuttal.
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    • 1.Collectives such as 'the biotic community' are not discrete unified agents but observer-dependent abstractions without a welfare that can be coherently weighed against individual sentient experience.
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    • 2.Moral obligations require identifiable bearers of interests, and attributing supreme intrinsic value to a diffuse ecological aggregate commits a category error that undermines the claim's normative force.
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    Criticizing the individualistic approach in general for failing to accommodate conservation concerns for ecological wholes, J. Baird Callicott (1980) once advocated a version of land-ethical holism which takes Leopold’s statement “A thing is right when it tends to preserve the integrity, stability, and beauty of the biotic community. It is wrong when it tends otherwise” to be the supreme deontological principle. In this theory, the earth’s biotic community per se is the sole locus of intrinsic v
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