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    It is not the case that An individual member of the biotic community ought to be sacrificed when doing so is necessary to protect the holistic good of the biotic community

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    • 1.Individual organisms possess intrinsic value independently of their membership in or contribution to any collective entity (Taylor 1986, Regan 1983).
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    • 2.A moral framework that treats individuals as purely instrumental to collective ends is structurally indistinguishable from the logic that justifies totalitarian sacrifice of persons for the state.
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    • 3.The parallel between holistic environmental ethics and fascism, identified by Regan as 'environmental fascism,' is not merely rhetorical but reveals a genuine logical entailment requiring rebuttal.
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    • 1.Collectives such as 'the biotic community' are not discrete unified agents but observer-dependent abstractions without a welfare that can be coherently weighed against individual sentient experience.
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    • 2.Moral obligations require identifiable bearers of interests, and attributing supreme intrinsic value to a diffuse ecological aggregate commits a category error that undermines the claim's normative force.
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    • 1.The biotic community per se is the sole locus of intrinsic value
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    • 2.Individual members have only instrumental value dependent on their contribution to the community
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    • 3.Preserving the holistic good of the biotic community is the supreme deontological principle
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