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    Deity will eventually emerge from the universe as a whole once the universe reaches sufficient complexity.

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    • 1.Space-time is the rock-bottom metaphysical reality.
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    • 2.When groupings of space-time become sufficiently complex, successive levels emerge: matter, then life, then mind, then deity.
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    • 3.The universe is currently at the mind level, so deity has not yet emerged.
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    • 1.Emergence relations require prior specification of what properties count as genuinely novel, but 'deity' lacks the functional criteria needed for such specification.
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    • 2.Without a naturalistic account of which divine attributes (omniscience, necessary existence, moral perfection) could be substrate-dependent, the claim conflates metaphor with emergence.
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    • 3.Jaegwon Kim's causal exclusion argument entails that any emergent deity would either be causally epiphenomenal or reducible to prior physical states, disqualifying it as genuinely divine.
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    • 1.Classical theism, from Anselm through Aquinas, holds that a being whose existence is contingent on prior physical complexity cannot possess necessary existence, a core divine attribute.
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    • 2.A deity that 'eventually emerges' is metaphysically dependent on antecedent conditions, making it a contingent being subject to the very causal order it would need to ground or explain.
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    In the middle, between the theistic dualisms and the pantheisms, stand the merotheisms and the panentheisms (two general kinds of models, 16 and 17, again, species coming). As indicated above, the merotheisms are rare, the “odd bird” idea that God is in the world, but the world goes beyond God. Though the term “merotheism” was coined only recently by Paul Draper for his own view (2019: 160), merotheisms have been around well before, for example, in divine emergence theories such as Samuel Alexan
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