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    It is not the case that Every reference to the fate of the lost in the New Testament argues irreversible destruction of the wicked

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    Reasons For

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    • 1.Revelation 14:11 and 20:10 explicitly describe torment 'day and night forever and ever,' which is incompatible with annihilationist readings of destruction.
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    • 2.The Greek 'aionios' in Matthew 25:46 applies symmetrically to eternal life and eternal punishment, making a terminal interpretation of punishment linguistically inconsistent.
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    • 3.Augustine's reading in City of God XIX-XXI established that 'destruction' (apoleia) in Koine Greek denotes ruin of function, not cessation of existence, a distinction the argument ignores.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.The argument commits the fallacy of equivocation by treating 'destruction,' 'perdition,' and 'utter loss' as synonyms for annihilation when patristic exegetes like Tertullian used them for permanent conscious ruin.
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    • 2.The 108 'adverse judgment' verses are explicitly admitted to specify no penalty, making their classification as evidence for irreversible destruction a non sequitur that inflates the count without logical warrant.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.10 refer to Gehenna
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    • 2.those verses refer to the rubbish pit in the Hinnom Valley outside Jerusalem
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    • 3.A reference to such pit argues irreversible destruction of the wicked
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    Reason against 2 of 2
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    • 1.10 refer to Gehenna
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    • 2.those verses refer to the fate of the lost
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    • 3.26 refer to the wicked burning up
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