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    God, as our Creator, has a freely accepted responsibility... — Carmelics
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    God, as our Creator, has a freely accepted responsibility to meet our moral and spiritual needs.

    Afterlife & DeathEternal Conscious Torment
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    As these remarks illustrate, the Augustinian understanding of original sin implies that we are all born guilty of a heinous sin against God, and this inherited guilt relieves God of any responsibility for our spiritual welfare. In Augustine’s own words, “Now it is clear that the one sin originally inherited, even if it were the only one involved, makes men liable to condemnation” (Enchiridion, 50—italics added). Augustine thus concluded that God can freely decide whom to save and whom to damn without committing any injustice at all. “Now, who but a fool,” he declared, “would think God unfair e...

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