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    God is in time. — Carmelics
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    God is in time.

    Afterlife & Death
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    • 1.The theistic God is omniscient.
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    • 2.If there are fundamental tensed facts (like that it's 12:00), God knows them.
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    • 3.Since tensed facts change, what God knows changes constantly.
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    • 1.God's knowledge of tensed facts can be explained as a single eternal act of knowing all temporal perspectives simultaneously, not sequentially.
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    • 2.Aquinas's doctrine of the 'eternal now' (nunc stans) holds that God comprehends all moments of time in one timeless, unchanging act of intellection.
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    • 3.If God's knowing does not involve succession from one mental state to another, then the change in tensed facts entails no change in God's knowledge.
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    • 1.The argument illicitly assumes that 'knowing that it is now 12:00' requires a temporally indexed mental state that itself exists at 12:00.
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    • 2.Boethius and Eleonore Stump argue that an eternal being relates to time as a spectator from outside the timeline, making 'now' relative to the creature, not to God.
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    God is not in time.93%Therefore, if God is not in space, God is not in time.82%If God changes constantly, then God is in time.80%God does not precede times by being located in time.80%

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    Recall that the theistic God is omniscient. Presumably then, God knows what temporal reality is like at its most fundamental. If there are fundamental tensed facts (like that it’s 12:00), God knows them. But since these facts change, what God knows changes constantly. So God changes constantly; so God is in time.

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