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    God's creative activity does not violate libertarian free... — Carmelics
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    God's creative activity does not violate libertarian freedom.

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    • 1.God's causality as creator does not act upon creatures or force them to do things, but rather creates them in their doings, so that they behave freely.
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    • 2.God's creative activity does not count as an independent determining condition of creaturely decision and action.
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    • 3.Assuming God's own will is free, there is no event in heaven or earth that is independent of my deciding and which causes my decision.
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    • 1.If God eternally and immutably wills the complete causal history of a creature's act, then that act's occurrence is necessitated by divine decree prior to any creaturely deliberation.
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    • 2.An act necessitated by a prior determining condition—even a 'ground of being'—fails the sourcehood condition required by libertarian freedom.
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    • 3.Describing divine causality as 'non-competitive' or 'transcendent' does not dissolve the logical incompatibility; it relocates the determining condition outside spacetime without eliminating it.
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    • 1.Libertarian freedom requires that the agent, given identical prior conditions, could have done otherwise—a condition Aquinas's God undermines by infallibly actualizing one world-history through providence.
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    • 2.Thomistic concurrentism, as Garrigou-Lagrange acknowledges, entails that God's premotion physically predetermines the creature's act to one determinate outcome, rendering genuine alternatives impossible.
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    A useful analogy that may be drawn here is to the relationship between the author of a story, and the characters within it. The author does not enter into the story herself, nor does she act upon the characters in such a way as to force them to do the things they do. Rather, she creates them in their doings, so that they are able to behave freely in the world of the novel. On the traditional account, God’s relation to his creatures is similar. As creator, he is the “first cause” of us and of our actions, but his causality works in such a way that we are not acted upon, and so are able to exerc...
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    The premises accurately reflect claims made in the passage and collectively provide rational support for the conclusion that God's creative activity does not violate libertarian freedom, since they establish that divine causality lacks the features (external determination, event causality, rendering creatures passive) that would threaten libertarian freedom.

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