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    God must be libertarianly free in his production of creat... — Carmelics
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    God must be libertarianly free in his production of creatures—free either to create or not to create.

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    • 1.It is necessary to uphold the divine absoluteness.
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    • 2.If God must create (i.e., the divine nature necessitates creation), then God would depend on the created world to be himself and to be fully actual.
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    • 3.If God depends on the created world, he would need what is other than himself to be himself.
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    • 1.Necessary creation does not entail God's dependence on creatures, since a necessary emanation can flow from divine fullness without God requiring creatures to be complete.
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    • 2.Plotinus and Neoplatonic emanationism hold that the One necessarily overflows into being precisely because it lacks nothing, making necessity compatible with absolute self-sufficiency.
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    • 3.Therefore, necessary creation can express divine absoluteness rather than compromise it, undermining the inference in P2-P4.
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    • 1.If God is identical with his own nature and his nature is essentially good, then Leibniz's principle that a perfectly rational will always acts on the best reason entails God necessarily creates the best world.
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    • 2.Libertarian freedom requires the ability to do otherwise without any change in reasons or nature, but an immutable, omniscient God cannot satisfy this condition without implying arbitrary or sub-rational divine choice.
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    • 3.Requiring libertarian freedom in God thus conflicts with divine rationality and immutability, making the claim self-defeating within classical theism.
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    But to uphold the divine absoluteness, it is also necessary that God be libertarianly free in his production of creatures. He must be free either to create or not to create. For suppose that the divine nature is such that God must create. Then God would depend on the created world to be himself and to be fully actual. He would need what is other than himself to be himself. This entanglement with the relative would compromise the divine absoluteness. God would need the world as much as the world needs God. Each would require the other to be what it is. But then God would not be absolute (Dolez...

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