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    It is not the case that Hadot's interpretation of Marcus's 'erase impressions' as 'assent only to objective physical descriptions' is more existentialist than Stoic.

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    • 1.For the Stoics, value is objective rather than subjectively added by the perceiving subject.
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    • 2.Marcus repeatedly exults in the beauty and goodness of the cosmos as a whole.
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    • 3.The Stoics recognized evaluative impressions, meaning that impressions themselves can carry evaluative content.
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    • 1.Chrysippus held that all impressions, including evaluative ones, are passively received from external objects with determinate normative content.
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    • 2.Hadot's 'physical descriptions' strip evaluative content before assent, making value a subjective bracketing act foreign to orthodox Stoic epistemology.
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    • 3.Sartrean bad faith, not Stoic discipline, is the framework where meaning is added or withheld by a choosing subject confronting brute facticity.
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    • 1.Marcus's Meditations 6.13 instructs erasing impressions to achieve tranquility, but Epictetus in Discourses 1.1 grounds this in recognizing objective rational order, not suspending evaluation.
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    • 2.Hadot's own intellectual formation in Heidegger and Merleau-Ponty predisposes him to read Stoic exercises as phenomenological reduction rather than cognitive correction of false beliefs about objective value.
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