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    Hadot's interpretation of Marcus's 'erase impressions' as... — Carmelics
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    Hadot's interpretation of Marcus's 'erase impressions' as 'assent only to objective physical descriptions' is more existentialist than Stoic.

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    • 1.Chrysippus held that all impressions, including evaluative ones, are passively received from external objects with determinate normative content.
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    • 2.Hadot's 'physical descriptions' strip evaluative content before assent, making value a subjective bracketing act foreign to orthodox Stoic epistemology.
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    • 3.Sartrean bad faith, not Stoic discipline, is the framework where meaning is added or withheld by a choosing subject confronting brute facticity.
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    • 1.Marcus's Meditations 6.13 instructs erasing impressions to achieve tranquility, but Epictetus in Discourses 1.1 grounds this in recognizing objective rational order, not suspending evaluation.
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    • 2.Hadot's own intellectual formation in Heidegger and Merleau-Ponty predisposes him to read Stoic exercises as phenomenological reduction rather than cognitive correction of false beliefs about objective value.
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    • 1.For the Stoics, value is objective rather than subjectively added by the perceiving subject.
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    • 2.Marcus repeatedly exults in the beauty and goodness of the cosmos as a whole.
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    • 3.The Stoics recognized evaluative impressions, meaning that impressions themselves can carry evaluative content.
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    This last use of ‘providence or atoms’ shows that since Marcus is writing to effect certain psychological attitudes in himself, we have to look to context to determine what the desired attitude is, and then determine how the things he tells himself are supposed to effect the attitude. Perhaps bringing about the desired attitude calls for making hyperbolic statements in order to correct for some natural tendency he thinks he has. If we do not keep this in mind as we read Marcus, we will only find
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