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    Hard incompatibilists like Derk Pereboom argue that causa... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Having the relevant freedom does not always require an ability to do otherwise in the present, but it does require an ability to have done otherwise at various times in one's life history with respect to character- or motive-forming acts.

    Hard incompatibilists like Derk Pereboom argue that causal determinism eliminates genuine sourcehood even across a life history of character-forming acts.

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    • 1.If all events are necessitated by prior causes beyond one's control, then nothing can originate from oneself as a true source.
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    • 2.Character-forming acts remain causally determined by genetics, environment, and prior mental states one didn't choose.
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    • 3.Genuine sourcehood requires the ability to have done otherwise in identical circumstances, which determinism logically precludes.
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    • 1.Sourcehood could require only that actions flow from one's own integrated character and reasons, not exemption from causation.
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    • 2.Character-formation across a life history can constitute genuine self-creation even if each step was causally determined.
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    • 3.The ability to do otherwise may be incoherent even for libertarians, making it an unfair standard for sourcehood.
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