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    If God prevents sinners from achieving their freely chose... — Carmelics
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    Supports→Sinners would not be able to retain forever their libertarian freedom to continue separating themselves from the divine nature and from the ultimate source of human happiness.

    If God prevents sinners from achieving their freely chosen goal of separating themselves from the divine nature, then they would have no real freedom to do so.

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    Given the almost universal Christian assumption that a complete separation from the divine nature (in the outer darkness, for example) would be an objective horror, it seems to follow that even God would face a dilemma with respect to human freedom. For either God could permit sinners to follow a path that ultimately leads, according to Christian theology, to an objective horror and permit them to continue following it for as long as they freely choose to do so, or God could at some point prevent them from continuing along their freely chosen path. If God should permit sinners to continue alon...

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