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    In neither case would sinners be able to retain forever t... — Carmelics
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    Supports→Sinners would not be able to retain forever their libertarian freedom to continue separating themselves from the divine nature and from the ultimate source of human happiness.

    In neither case would sinners be able to retain forever their libertarian freedom to continue separating themselves from the divine nature.

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    So the idea of irreparable harm—that is, of harm that not even omnipotence could ever repair—is critical at this point. It is most relevant, perhaps, in cases where someone imagines sinners freely choosing annihilation (Kvanvig), or imagines them freely making a decisive and irreversible choice of evil (Walls), or imagines them freely locking the gates of hell from the inside (C. S. Lewis). But proponents of the so-called escapism understanding of hell can plausibly counter that hell is not necessarily an instance of such irreparable harm, and Raymond VanArragon in particular raises the possib...

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